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Sooty · Aug 16, 2006, 08:23 AM // 08:23

As many of you no doubt are aware there's a lot of people joining abs with the opposing faction and eoe saccing themselves for free faction and leaving the other teams in the lurch for the ensuing ab.

Anet seriously needs to fix this pronto or ABs won't be worth bothering with at all.

If you are one of the people doing this, consider evolving some ethics and stuff around in your own time not others'.

RTSFirebat · Aug 16, 2006, 10:16 AM // 10:16

Then why are you posting this here?

You'd be better off reporting the issue directly to A.net via their support website.

Here there is only a "chance" an A.net dev will see this.

Oh and this is an issue in all types of PvP battles, not just AB.

pokerface · Aug 16, 2006, 10:39 AM // 10:39

Whats wrong With EoE

It rules in AB, kills the enemies all the time
Just let them kill you, bye bye enemies.

Across The Battle · Aug 16, 2006, 11:19 AM // 11:19

I dont know why you would report the use of a skill to anet's support site, It is not a support issue, nothing is working incorrectly.

Its just like touch rangers, you have to deal with it until anet wants to fix it.

|pyro| · Aug 16, 2006, 11:22 AM // 11:22

Well but Kurzick have joined to the Luxon (and vice versa) guiled as guests I think and went to aB only saccing themself with EoE and BR/BiP even bore the timer started Kurzick had a lot of points coz they died all the time. Then after a while the border shifted.

YunSooJin · Aug 16, 2006, 11:57 AM // 11:57

I think the EoE bombers are awesome.

The whole Kurzicks vs Luxons was made out to be a big deal during release, but it's become incredibly boring.

I mean seriously. Border just shifts between Saltspray Beach and Etnaran Keys. There's no reward for pushing people back to Cavalon or HzH. The entire thing seems boring and pointless, unless you want to slaughter PvP newbies or farm faction.

I say huzzah to the Eoe bombers for stirring up the otherwise lifeless pot.

RTSFirebat · Aug 16, 2006, 11:59 AM // 11:59

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Originally Posted by Across The Battle

I dont know why you would report the use of a skill to anet's support site, It is not a support issue, nothing is working incorrectly.

Its just like touch rangers, you have to deal with it until anet wants to fix it.

Er... no that is not why I suggested support.

Killing yourself to gank your team using EoE is an exploit.

If you took a moment to look at the support site, you can ask for help, report bugs and report cheating to them.

Since an exploit is a form of cheating, support is the way to go.

EoE is fine, its abuse isn't.

Cyan The Archer · Aug 16, 2006, 12:27 PM // 12:27

I hate when people say its always the Kurzicks fault or Luxons fault. Both do it, dont blame only one side. "but they started it" is bs.

Theus · Aug 16, 2006, 01:05 PM // 13:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Across The Battle

I dont know why you would report the use of a skill to anet's support site, It is not a support issue, nothing is working incorrectly.

Its just like touch rangers, you have to deal with it until anet wants to fix it.

Nice job reading the original post thar.Idiot.

NinjaKai · Aug 16, 2006, 01:17 PM // 13:17

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Originally Posted by YunSooJin

I think the EoE bombers are awesome.

The whole Kurzicks vs Luxons was made out to be a big deal during release, but it's become incredibly boring.

I mean seriously. Border just shifts between Saltspray Beach and Etnaran Keys. There's no reward for pushing people back to Cavalon or HzH. The entire thing seems boring and pointless, unless you want to slaughter PvP newbies or farm faction.

I say huzzah to the Eoe bombers for stirring up the otherwise lifeless pot.

Actually i've been in the AB area where its been pushed back into deep kurzick territory.

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Originally Posted by Cyan The Archer

I hate when people say its always the Kurzicks fault or Luxons fault. Both do it, dont blame only one side. "but they started it" is bs.

Agreed. Both sides use minion masters, both sides use those annoying touch rangers, both sides use whatever build the people your fighting want to choose.

Its no different than TA. For all you know two warriors could be using the same build and be on opposite sides. Its just something that can't be helped.

Across The Battle · Aug 16, 2006, 01:23 PM // 13:23

Ok then perhaps I just dont know what is wrong, what isnt working as intended. With all this hype about it, I am glad I never ran into it in AB. Can someone explain it in more detail so I can see the exploit/cheat/uber-leet hack

unholy guardian · Aug 16, 2006, 01:33 PM // 13:33

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Originally Posted by Across The Battle

Ok then perhaps I just dont know what is wrong, what isnt working as intended. With all this hype about it, I am glad I never ran into it in AB. Can someone explain it in more detail so I can see the exploit/cheat/uber-leet hack

i have seen 2 forms

One used Eoe and 4 55 necros to sac themselves, sometimes they are rangers for the maxed out eoe though. I mean the thing would do a lot of damage when they die.

I also say 3 sac'er and one rezmer, but it didn't seem to go as well for them as the EoE.

Wait a minute, by any chance people rez imediatly that one day? EoE people would have a feild day! Although that may have only been jade quarry and aspenwood idk.

Anyway that's what i know of it, they probably did somethinig else, i just reeemeber dropping dead a lot.

NinjaKai · Aug 16, 2006, 01:33 PM // 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Across The Battle

Ok then perhaps I just dont know what is wrong, what isnt working as intended. With all this hype about it, I am glad I never ran into it in AB. Can someone explain it in more detail so I can see the exploit/cheat/uber-leet hack

Its no exploit, cheat or anything like that. The OP is just getting irritated over EoE bombers. Basically he's whining because he doesn't know how to counter it so he's blaming ANet.

milias · Aug 16, 2006, 01:47 PM // 13:47

In my opinion, at any time, when a skill is used against its intended purpose by ANet, then it is by definition an exploit. I would hardly think ANet had intended this, hence I personally believe it is an exploit and should be addressed by ANet in a timely fashion. Based on past balancing by ANet in PvP, I do have confidence in them to fix this soon.

Across The Battle · Aug 16, 2006, 03:09 PM // 15:09

@milas: Protective spirit doesnt seem to be used in its intended purpose but anet doesnt seem to have a problem with that. Saying that because its not how anet wanted doesnt seem right because that stifles creativity. I dont believe that is a valid arguement.

EDIT by Swehurn - removed comment referring to a deleted post.

milias · Aug 16, 2006, 03:13 PM // 15:13

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Originally Posted by Across The Battle

@milas: Protective spirit doesnt seem to be used in its intended purpose but anet doesnt seem to have a problem with that. Saying that because its not how anet wanted doesnt seem right because that stifles creativity. I dont believe that is a valid arguement.

There's a reason why I said "PvP". Protective Spirit is mostly abused by 55-monks in PvE. ANet seems to give more leeway to PvE abuses than PvP ones, in my opinion.

Bokocasso · Aug 16, 2006, 03:20 PM // 15:20

The whole kurzick/luxon thing is totall bs... After EVERY battle the winning team stars cussing - "luxon noobs" "luxons got pwnd" or whatever. I'm sure that's after luxons beat kurzicks too. This whole separations sux and creates nothing but meaningless hatred between the two factions. And some 10-year-old-wanabeees can't learn to play/talk at all. And I wish these kids existed only in ab... Today I had a RA battle and we met a weak team. Killed them, but only 1 ranger was left alive. And guess what his skillbar had : escape, dodge, troll, barbed trap. He was there to run, not to fight. I asked him to stop it. After 7 minutes I said goodbye and that I wish his existance would end in pain. And he said to me "noooooooooooob" ... these kids deserve LOTS, LOTS of beating!

Sooty · Aug 16, 2006, 03:23 PM // 15:23

I think a lot of people missed the point here. I'm not complaining about eoe being used as part of an ab...what i'm complaining about is, for instance, luxon players joining an AB on the kurzick side then sacing themselves along with eoe to kill kurzick players BEFORE THE AB STARTS, while the timer is still going. Thus ruining the whole thing for whichever side they do it do.

RTSFirebat knew what i was getting at, and i may email support except I assumed they would already be aware of it. I suppose they may not be...

Curse You · Aug 16, 2006, 04:04 PM // 16:04

This EoE "team killing" is a severe problem. People that want to have a fair, blanced fight are being abused by these people.

About the acusations, how then are you to explain why the Luxons got pushed so far back? It's obvious that the "Kurzick spies" or whatever you want to call them, were more active than any "Luxon spies", otherwise the Alliance line woud have stopped moving so much.

For anyone too ignorant to try to figure out what I (and the OP) am talking about, watch this video one of my guildmates found;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgLs1...elated&search=

Arkantos · Aug 16, 2006, 04:16 PM // 16:16

The EoE "exploit" is annoying, but hows ANet gonna fix it? The only way I can think of is make EoE only affect enemies, but then it would be abused much more.